[mdvaldosta]

I guess Chevrolet is taking a 30 year old Ford trick and throwing a 4 cyclinder engine (possibly) in the 2010 Camaro...

The Vice Chairman for GM – Bob Lutz – gave a brief statement of their plans at the New York Auto Show stating that, “the drivetrain under consideration for the Camaro is the same high-performance one used in the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky roadsters. It’s a 2.0-liter turbocharged, direct-injected four-cylinder rated at 260 hp. With its muscle car heritage and optional V-8 engine, the Camaro is hardly the statement of green, high-tech modernism that every carmaker is trying to broadcast these days.” [SOURCE - CarXen]

So... folks are gonna be buying a Camaro for the gas mileage? Umm, don't think so. Looks maybe, gas mileage - no.

[AtlanticBlue99]

Yeah, I see GM's platform sharing soaring to new heights with their new line-up. They better look at how Lee Iacocca developed the Mustang and saved Chrysler if they want to keep this car alive!

[mdvaldosta]

Eh, I give it 8 years and it'll be canned again - unless gas suddenly drops to $2/gallon again. Yea, right. Guess I'm just not a Camaro fan.

[Doc8224]

I am waiting for the z-28 to have that dang multi displacement crap. "hot rod your camaro on the weekends then get great gas mileage during the week" That will be the end for sure.

[tsp_2177]

Originally Posted by mdvaldosta

Eh, I give it 8 years and it'll be canned again - unless gas suddenly drops to $2/gallon again. Yea, right. Guess I'm just not a Camaro fan.

if you were we wouldn't have MM

[LV51FER]

There are rumours abounding that the Mustang will get a twin turbo V6. There are also rumours that the Camaro will be built in RHD and be sold throughout Europe. For that reason and that reason alone, with gas here at £1.04 per liter (over $2 at today's rates), the case for a 4 cylinder Camaro is almost irresistible.

Why? Because in Europe, 4 cylinder cars are the norm and most European countries are cracking down on emissions and increasing road tax. So the GM 3.8V6 is considered an undesirable engine and with only 200hp, it's hardly the weapon of choice. A cleaner 4 cylinder engine will find vastly more sales and allow all the pussies her in Europe to have the visual appeal of a muscle car and a whimper under the hood - Fod did it here in the 70's and 80's with the Ford Capri which came with engines from a 3.0V6 right down to a 1.3!!

However, the danger I perceive is far worse than any 4 cylinder engine. If the Camaro is a success in Europe, you can bet your bottom dollar some bright spark at GM (well known for prostituting anything they have for money) will fit a diesel because they sell in their millions due to lower emissions. A high performance 4 banger is the least of the camaro's worries - a diesel will destroy it's genetic DNA and yet, ironically, could turn it into a sales success. If it does, you may wonder if the Mustang will follow.....

[Altailites]

When has Ford ever followed anything GM has done? Its actually dramatically correct to say that GM has followed Ford in the past, and will continue to. A diesel engine in the Mustang? I wont say never, but i will say its not going to happen in the next 20 years.

[LV51FER]

Originally Posted by Altailites

When has Ford ever followed anything GM has done? Its actually dramatically correct to say that GM has followed Ford in the past, and will continue to. A diesel engine in the Mustang? I wont say never, but i will say its not going to happen in the next 20 years.

You may be right so far as the US is concerned but since Ford have no current intention of selling the Mustang in Europe and GM do intend to sell the Camaro in Europe, they could only "copy" GM if the Camaro proves a success because GM will be doing it first.

It's a difficult call for Ford because they are going to rely on volume sales in a country with a falling economy. GM may be hedging their bets by making the Camaro a global brand and sucking up sales off the back of Transformer movies.

The UK is one of the biggest markets for sports cars in the world and people here love the Mustang (and indeed the private importers are making nice profits importing them and selling them for the equivalent of $50000) but a very large number are put off by the LHD impracticaility, lack of dealer support and zero warranty so continue to buy 350Zs and Subarus.

Of course, much depends on pricing policy. The Corvette sells in limited numbers because that too is LHD but it's fair to say that the RHD Vauxhall Monaro (your old GTO) and VX8R (your G8) don't exactly fly off the shleves even at a fairly bargain equivalent of $70000. The Chancellor has also just delivered a punch in the ribs for new cars with higher CO2 emissions by announcing much higher road tax (around $900 a year from 2010) which is bound to hit sales of larger capacity cars and is yet another reason why the diesel is a massive seller in the UK and Europe.

That said, I find it odd that GM are thinking of selling a car with US retro connitations in Europe where most people don't even know what a Camaro is!

As for disels in this type of car? Well BMW do it and Audi are about to launch a V10 diesel R8 so never say never.

[Altailites]

Originally Posted by LV51FER

You may be right so far as the US is concerned but since Ford have no current intention of selling the Mustang in Europe and GM do intend to sell the Camaro in Europe, they could only "copy" GM if the Camaro proves a success because GM will be doing it first.

It's a difficult call for Ford because they are going to rely on volume sales in a country with a falling economy. GM may be hedging their bets by making the Camaro a global brand and sucking up sales off the back of Transformer movies.

The UK is one of the biggest markets for sports cars in the world and people here love the Mustang (and indeed the private importers are making nice profits importing them and selling them for the equivalent of $50000) but a very large number are put off by the LHD impracticaility, lack of dealer support and zero warranty so continue to buy 350Zs and Subarus.

Of course, much depends on pricing policy. The Corvette sells in limited numbers because that too is LHD but it's fair to say that the RHD Vauxhall Monaro (your old GTO) and VX8R (your G8) don't exactly fly off the shleves even at a fairly bargain equivalent of $70000. The Chancellor has also just delivered a punch in the ribs for new cars with higher CO2 emissions by announcing much higher road tax (around $900 a year from 2010) which is bound to hit sales of larger capacity cars and is yet another reason why the diesel is a massive seller in the UK and Europe.

That said, I find it odd that GM are thinking of selling a car with US retro connitations in Europe where most people don't even know what a Camaro is!

As for disels in this type of car? Well BMW do it and Audi are about to launch a V10 diesel R8 so never say never.

RED- Now that you put it that way, it makes more sense.
PINK- Look closely, where did i say never?